One of the worst feelings in the world is being cheated on.
Especially if you're in a situation where you truly have no idea your partner would even consider cheating, being blindsided is like a cinder block of hot garbage in your stomach.
Of course, plenty of people have happy and healthy open relationships with clear guidelines and expectations. The worst part of being cheated on, though, is feeling disrespected, undervalued, or tricked.
There are a lot of differing opinions on whether or not it's your place to share with someone's partner that you know they're cheating, but it seems better than letting someone live a lie for years...
In the AITA (Am I the Asshole?) section of Reddit someone asked, "AITA for sending a voice recording of a coworker trying to cheat on his wife, to his wife?"
Without even reading it, I'm going to go ahead and say this person is NOT the asshole because looking out for a scorned spouse is never bad. Of course, it might feel like it's not your place to throw someone under the bus like that, but if you have knowledge that could save someone else from staying in a sham marriage for years on end and you keep it to yourself, then maybe you're even more of an asshole? It's complicated. Luckily, though, there's Reddit to guide us through life's turmoil...
The post continues:
I was out at a happy hour with a few of my coworkers, James, Nate, and Ethan. I am good friends with Ethan but I don't know Nate too well, and I don't really care for James though I've kept that to myself. So I was mainly there to hang out with Ethan
Nate and Ethan wanted to talk privately about some work thing, some disagreement with a client, and at one point I was alone with James.
I started to feel like he was hitting on me, being kind of flirty and touchy, and I was NOT into it. I was giving one word answers and playing with my phone rather than reciprocating. I felt a little awkward telling him to stop it because he was toeing the line of plausible deniability and I felt like he'd probably just say he hadn't been doing anything.
I turned on my phone's voice recorder app though, I always do it when I suspect someone is crossing a line, it's saved my ass before. It is legal in my state to record like that fyi. And it was on when James asked me if I wanted to 'get out of here'
I asked 'to where' and he said "maybe we could go to my car and listen to that some music"
And I said "Huh, and what else?" And he kinda stuttered and said that he'd like to get to know me better and spend some time just with me.
I asked "what about your wife" and he started telling me about how they're practically roommates, only together for the kids, how she's probably been seeing other people too. I didn't say much, just nodded along for a while until he was done. Then I said "Nah, I'm not into that" and I excused myself to the bathroom.
I was pissed off that James would try to cheat on his wife, I've met her and she's a sweet lady. I was also pissed off that he'd try to get with me, his coworker. I used to work at a different company with really shitty company culture, and I've become fed up with old-ass married engineers who try to fuck the new young employee. I just wanna not deal with that.
So, I sent an email to James's wife, whose email I knew since she had replied to a company mailing list email about a holiday party.
And I said "I don't know if you remember me, but I'm (OP) and I work with your husband. We meet at the last company Christmas party. I'm really sorry to have to tell you like this, but your husband is trying to cheat on you. I know that might be hard to believe coming from a near-stranger so I've attached a recording of that."
And I got a reply from her kind of lashing out at me for leading him on. And for trying to hurt her by attaching the recording which really hurt to hear.
I really wasn't trying to lead him on, the only reason I was asking leading questions like "to where" and "what else" were to get him to say what he was doing.
But I'm questioning whether it was too much to send the actual audio. I feel for her, it must have hurt to hear.
AITA for sending that voice recording?
Damn.
This is tough because if his wife was coming from a place of pain and rejection which is probably why she felt like lashing out at the messenger. It was clear to me reading this that the OP was purposefully giving him leading questions so that the recording would paint a full picture of his intentions. Of course, it would be painful to hear it, but I don't think she was wrong to include it.
The internet naturally weighed in on this issue:
"glassfallacy" wrote:
NTA I know I would want to know if my husband was acting like that. I wouldn’t take her response to heart, this is such a difficult thing for her I’m sure she is just processing and will realize that her husband is the real asshole
"hobbitleaf" wrote:
NTA - you did her a favor, I'd divorce in an instant if someone showed me evidence like that. Yea it hurts, but getting cheated on for years and years hurts way fucking worse.
"gogoldenf1sh" wrote:
NTA. Ya know, one time I had a similar situation.
I was young (18) but learned from it. But I think everyone is judging you unfairly from this.
My ex and I were friends with this couple. I knew the husband from when I was a kid because his dad was friends with my parents. Anyways, one night I invited the couple over for a bbq (like I always did) but only he showed up. He said his wife was at a family party but "don't tell her I'm here I don't want her to get angry". I thought, " okay whatever, it's not my business, not my relationship. " My ex had been arrested that night as well so he wasn't there. There were other people there though, not just us. Anyways, by the end of the night, this guy is asking to come into the house saying he can keep me company. I was really confused, I said, "uh.. why do you want to come in though? It's late already" and he's like, "you know, so you're not lonely, I can keep you company" I said "no dude, just go home already"
It was weird to me, but I decided not to say anything because I didn't want to meddle into anyone's relationship. His wife was my only friend and she immediately cut me off. He went and told her that I was trying to get with him.
I don't think it's wrong to protect yourself from people.
"amaenamonesia" wrote:
NTA
Everyone getting on to you for “leading him on” sniffs of misogyny to me. He’s an adult man with a wife and family. Even if you were interested in him, he should have the decency and maturity to say no.
The fact that you asked those questions did bait him out, but you were fair in doing so. An honest person would say no to “bait.” It’s not like he was completely innocent until you started asking questions (insert ‘haha jk...unless’ meme here).
He is trying to cheat and she is in denial. You did your part and now you can just bow out of the situation, she will either handle it or continue on with an unfaithful husband.
"Sweet_Xoctical" wrote:
NTA. The wife is in denial and would rather put the blame on you than her potentially cheating husband. Her logic is closely akin to telling girls to cover up so they won’t attract unwanted attention. The whole “leading him on” comment is bullshit, you were just gathering evidence.
A lot of the comments are saying that you should mind your own business. I’m a big believer in minding my own business but in this case the wife should be made aware of the situation so the problem won’t spread. Being a bystander doesn’t help anyone and like you said, people actually want to be aware if their SO is being unfaithful.
So, there you have it! She's NTA (Not the asshole). I hope this couple figures this all out...