Businesses keep all kinds of secrets from consumers, clients, and the general public. And one way they prevent these secrets from getting out is by making employees sign non-disclosure agreements that legally prevent them from spilling the dirt. But a fun fact about NDA's is they have expiration dates. And after that, there's nothing to stop these secrets from getting out—especially when anonymous online forums exist. Thanks, Reddit!
Someone asked Reddit: "people no longer bound by their non disclosure agreements, what can you now disclose?" These 25 ex-employees share the secrets they can now legally spill about their former workplaces.
In case you needed a reminder: consumer capitalism is built on a bed of lies.
1.) From johndoenumber2:
My best friend worked at a roadside attraction near Chattanooga, TN, called Ruby Falls (there's something else called Ruby Falls elsewhere in the country). It's supposedly a waterfall inside a cave. Of course, the trail to the cave is re-done with all sorts of rock brought in from around the world - I think they've owned up to that part now.
But the "waterfall" itself is barely a trickle naturally, and then only in the wetter season. They've run a pipe up there to supplement the falls, hidden by cracks and crevices and cemented over, and powered by a pump off to the side, which you can't hear when the water is splashing down from 100 feet overhead. It's 99% from the City of Chattanooga (or maybe Lookout Mountain) municipal water supply.
Of course, with such a wet area, old electrical wires going back to the Great Depression, and 300 feet underground, it sputters, or shorts out and stops every now and then. The first rule in the Falls Room is "make everybody leave immediately if the power goes out", not for safety, but because the fable agreed-upon will be shown as fake.
2.) From mattzees:
The book you're reading might only be a "bestseller" because the author had enough money to buy thousands and thousands of copies, have them shipped to a warehouse for storage, and eventually destroyed.
3.) From neverherebefore:
I worked at a small bakery in New York City when I was younger. Every morning the bakery would take their day old cup cakes and deliver them to a tour company that did Sex and the City tours. The tour company would pass our cupcakes off as cupcakes from Magnolia, and significantly much more popular bakery.
4.) From ThatBankTeller:
When i was fired from Auntie Anne's in 2010, I signed a 10 year non-compete/NDA contract, promising not to detail the baking secrets or work for another pretzel establishment.
Well that ended this year so now I can run out and start a pretzel store because the secret I was keeping was making pretzels literally requires 2 products, one of them being water and the other a large bag of pretzel meal/dust/powder. Quite literally anyone with $2500 can start a pretzel stand and make perfectly fine pretzels, it's not difficult whatsoever.
5.) From Opti-Free31:
I used to work for a large gas station chain.
I worked at its warehouse where it creates a lot of the donuts. The room was really hot so we were always sweating. There’s some machines where the donuts get glazed in chocolate. They’re these small machines they look almost like a bbq grill. They always wanted us to be super fast glazing the donuts. Working in a hot room and working at super fast speeds it was natural for a lot of peoples sweat to just drip in the chocolate underneath us. Never eat the chocolate donuts from a gas station
6.) From xCarbonBasedCreature:
McDonald’s made me sign a NDA regarding a robbery that took place during a graveyard shift. They made me take a f*cking polygraph test because they thought my ex and I were involved due to the simple fact that I had stopped by that day to pick up some documents. (I was a manager, I had business to do).
F*ck you, McMierda.
7.) From No7an:
The secret ingredient in Jimmy John’s tuna salad is Kikkoman’s Soy Sauce
8.) From DrunkThrowsMcBrady:
I was a contractor for NASA. I still fully support the agency, but I was extremely bugged when I learned that each separate NASA center (e.g., JPL, Kennedy, Ames, Goddard) hides many of its inventions and breakthroughs from the other centers so that when HQ is ready to assign a big mission (and a lot of dollars) to one center, they have a better chance to compete over the others. “Look what we invented! Ames can’t do this over there! Give us the next moon orbiter!”
The downside is that there is a ton of reinvention and duplicated efforts going on. Sometimes years of work go down the drain when another center does the same thing faster. My perspective was: you all work for NASA. Share knowledge, collaborate. I was frequently ordered to tone down anything revealing when speaking to other centers.
9.) From DisheveledJesus:
This is something I could spend a lot of time diving into, but the sub-prime lending company I used to work for as a software engineer spent a lot of time and effort manipulating the UX of our various applications to encourage customers to accept loan terms that were not necessarily in their best interest. I quit pretty quickly after realizing that the people in charge had very little interest in actually supporting us in making a product that would be better for our customers.
10.) From aeroplane1979:
I once had to sign an NDA to get a price on a printer for my sign shop. This was a printer that was only sold by one distributor, by the way, so there wasn't even any direct competition on this particular model. I think they gimmick was that if they make a really big deal out of giving you this super secret pricing that you'd be lulled into thinking it was really something special.
Edit: Interesting comment by u/BeardStacheMan below who probably has the right idea as to what was going on with this practice.
From BeardStacheMan:
They weren't worried about you going to a different supplier, they wanted to be able to offer different prices to different customers. This is a concept called price discrimination and is a very common practice.
11.) From AnonymousChaos:
Be careful if your pet needs specific shampoo supplied by a petsm@rt gr* * ming salon. Last I worked there, they weren’t letting us order anything and we had to try to track down shampoos from other stores before they’d let us buy anything. Meaning if your dog needed hypoallergenic shampoo or you were paying for an expensive upgrade, it’s very possible that some of the products were unavailable. Often times we would have the furminator shampoo but no conditioner, and the conditioner is what reduces the shedding so we’d just have to use regular dog conditioner. We couldn’t stop selling these packages because that’s what they base our performance on. I was considered a bad salon leader cause I wouldn’t push these products we didn’t have.
Also teeth brushing is absolutely useless there. It does not stop your dogs mouth from decaying at all and you’d be better off buying an enzyme toothpaste from your vet and brushing your dogs teeth every day. The toothpaste we had basically was just to make your dogs breath seem better for a little while.
Oh and the reason a bunch of dogs died there is because people were likely not following the rules when handling dogs. Almost every salon I worked at had people like that. They aren’t supposed to be kenneling your flat faced dogs anymore because of it. They’re also supposed to have a set of eyes on your dog at all time when they are tethered to the floor. Someone obviously neglected to do that a few months ago when that bulldog passed away.
The training program their groomers go through is not very good either. They have 4 weeks to basically become full fledged groomers and a week is spent on computers. There’s never enough dogs to practice all of the cuts they should know. They also don’t kick out trainees who repeatedly cut dogs. They try to normalize nicking dogs so they don’t have to fire people, but there is no reason dogs should be getting hurt at a grooming salon if they follow the rules they’re supposed to. The biggest problem is they barely pay anything to help you upkeep your tools and dull tools cause injuries. With what they pay people usually can’t afford to sharpen most of their tools so you’re stuck with the bare minimum. *hid the name more
12.) From HeathenLemming:
Never had an NDA on this but if I give too much info, I'll get tagged and likely get in serious trouble.
BCBS had a severe security breach back in 2007. If you were with them in a certain area of the country and ever called them the number for help on your account, ALL of your personal info was caught by a third party. Every caller, every piece of data.
They never disclosed this breach.
13.) From caravaggiho:
I dug up some (ancient) bones, gold, and Mycenaean tombs! I couldn’t discuss the finds until the institution who ran the archaeological dig could publish the data. You can read about it here!
Edit to add: I’m a classics student — not the one running the whole dig, but my role in it was very much legal and official lol. We knew to dig there because there was another tomb next to it, and it’s located near a big Mycenaean Bronze Age palace. I only dug there for one summer but it was a blast — if you’re interested in archaeology, you should see if there are any local groups that you can volunteer with!
14.) From Klathmon:
The owner of the company is an absolute psycho.
They have been trying to hire developers for years now, and despite paying really well, they can't keep them.
I quit after 3 days. I was trying to help out on a high priority bug on my 3rd day, when I said "all the requests to X endpoint are failing" to which he replied "I see 1 out of ~500 requests succeeding, does that sound like "all" to you?".
He then called a company wide all hands meeting, and proceeded to tell everyone how important it is that we all speak carefully, and that we don't need f*cking retards like me lying to the company making it harder to diagnose issues.
I told him to go f*ck himself and quit on the spot.
Turns out the company has a big history of this. My boss who had been there for 2 weeks had tried to quit the week prior, but was convinced to stay on to meet me. He left a few days after me. Apparently a few people got together and tried to tell the owner that he needs to watch how he talks to people, and he blew up on them about it too. I later heard that I was something like the 10th person to quit within their first month in a row!
The sad truth is that the dude actually seems pretty smart, but has been acting like a megalomaniac while he pisses his money away and abuses his employees that are for whatever reason unwilling to leave.
15.) From kb709:
We re-used buffet style food served in a cafeteria that we're supposed to compost and record as waste. The health inspector says anything that's left open buffet style and serve yourself can't be taken back and repurposed because it's not monitored and could be cross contaminated or many other things (nobody should ever eat buffet style if avoidable fyi) but the fortune 500 company I worked for was unhappy about the money they were losing by composting the food so they make us keep it and re-serve it later or repurpose it into soup or casserole or something. Personally I never did this and just waited for my boss to leave and compost the food but others I worked with were too worried about losing their jobs to go against orders. I didn't want to be fired but felt morally obligated to not feed people food that was meant to be garbage, so I just sneaky tossed it out when nobody was looking because I got paid really well there. We all had to sign NDA's saying we wouldn't tell the media or non employees about recipes and procedures that covered leftover food and food waste. Eventually my boss discovered what I was doing and I stood up to him about not being willing to reuse garbage as food so we agreed that I'd just quit because while they could force me not to talk about it, they couldn't actually force me to do something illegal for my job and I was clearly refusing to do it.
16.) From cdnpaul:
I worked at a gym. And in the showers there was yellow shampoo and blue body wash in pump dispensers. I found out that the only difference between the two soaps was the colour.
EDIT: it wasn't an NDA about soap. It was just a generic employment NDA to protect the privacy of members and business affairs of the gym.
17.) From Abell370:
I used to do data analysis of revenue management for some big companies.
Many companies have no clue about their data or their revenue streams. I'm talking several million dollars of revenue disappearing in the pipeline and no one knowing what happened with it, or even caring really.
There were multiple times I had to inform clients that we had huge gaps in their costs and we needed to find the missing numbers somewhere in order to make our final reports correct and was met with the (paraphrased) reply: just sprinkle the missing costs over the existing one. We just want the final total to be correct.
All the companies cared about if the amount of money they have at the end of the year is higher than at the beginning and anything that happens in between is inconsequential.
I objected at first to my bosses, saying that what we were doing was incorrect, but they said to just do as the client said. In the end, I got disillusioned and whenever our clients came with requests that made no mathematical or logical sense, I'd just execute as requested and let their analysts figure out later that the analysis they paid 6 figures for was basically nonsense. I didn't care, because I had documentation of all their requests and my objections which were thoroughly ignored. I had a few cases where clients came back disgruntled several months down the line after some in-house analyst had done a deep dive of their data and came up with objections that I had pointed out months before. I'd usually dig up the relevant emails and clear my name. My choice of action was to tell them to pound sand, but my bosses always bent over backwards for clients, so we'd have to do the cleanup I anticipated.
In the end I learned most of our economy is held together by ductape and wishful thinking. At most 10% of people working at big companies are competent and carry the bulk of the work and rarely are the competent ones the ones in charge.
18.) From originalchaosinabox:
My graphic designer best friend won my town’s “design the centennial logo” contest, despite having never set foot in the town.
I worked for the radio station, and just did an interview with one of the organizers, where he lamented that there weren’t very many entries. So I called my friend and said, “Want in on this?” He said, “Sure!” As he lived on the other side of the country at the time, I spent the next day texting him photos of the town for inspiration.
Anyway, when he won and they found out he was a professional graphic designer who lived on the other side of the country, they made him and me sign NDAs because the town was afraid people would think they brought in a ringer.
19.) From CasaDubara:
I don't really want to reveal the name of the company, because I'm one of only three people who have worked for the company that can speak English well enough to formulate more than just basic sentences (the others being a high-level manager, and the CEO). The others still works there, and while I'm not interested in going back to work for the company, I don't really like burning bridges but here's the juicy gossip from the company:
A majority of the software was jankily put together because the company refused to hire more developers. We would develop PoC for features and functions, being told that we could rewrite it before implementing it. We would demo the PoC and be told to integrate it straight into the project. We were never given time to refactor anything.
The CFO (the CEO's sister) was constantly lying on expenses and spending huge amounts on the company credit card for frivilous stuff for her home, we thought. Turns out, she had left her husband with the dream of becoming an Art dealer, spent all her savings on art that she couldn't flip, then used the company credit card to keep chasing her pipe-dream.
The company, without my knowledge, forged fake employment records to satisfy visa requirements. It wasn't until the government sent me a copy of the records when I got my visa, I realise that the Head of HR (Another sister of the CEO) has falisified that I worked for 2 years for our British investors company.
I was massively oversold to native investors because I had the right skin-color, and could speak the native language. I would sitting in meetings with the government and investors taking notes, while my company passed me off as their 'genius' lead architect. I was a junior fresh out of university, who was essentially told that even though I had zero work experience as a developer, I'd now be building the project from the ground up.
It was revealed to me, after working for the company for 18 months, that this was the CEOs 5th start up, and that he had essentially bled his parents dry to fund it all, until he could get alternative investments.
In the two years I worked for the company, we lost roughly 8 people because they were overworked and the HR was determined to bring the company back to it's 'native roots' in terms of working atmosphere.
When I left the company, I stayed on for 3 months longer as a consultant (4 x monthly wage for 3 months was a bit too good to pass up) to train the person who was going to be replacing me, she came in on day 1, and didn't turn up on day 2. Apparently when they outlined all the roles I filled, and projects I was working with, she quit on the spot, because despite her experience, it was far too much work for her. They ended up hiring 3 people to replace me. Due to the native investors we have (and how they think), the company just sold it to the investors as scaling up, rather than trying to maintain output.
The backend system (which was pretty much the selling point of the product we were developing) was essentially stolen from someones git repo and slightly modified for our purposes (not enough to not give credit, IMO). I outright refused to work on it myself, and left other developers to work on, I didn't want my name on that code.
The huge boost in quality of our backend was purely because we bought out the development of a smaller chinese company. The CEO didn't bother to ask exactly where this group of four mid-twenties chinese developers got it from, but it was faaaar beyond their ability.
I was living and working in a country where bribery of government officials (like those who oversaw our progress and signed off on our funding) was soo common, the country had to implement massively strict laws. So when we had a government official come round (usually two to ensure that the evaulations were fair and unbiased), we were all conveniently called to go enjoy a lunch on the company dime, all pre-paid upfront! But what's even more unbelievable? Two employees have too much work and have to skip lunch, we looks like that's two pre-paid lunches wasted unless two individuals who happen to be free for lunch would care to join us. yeah we essentially would bribe the government officials with expensive meals in favour of receiving praise from them, and it was completely illegal.
I had been instructed, on more than one occassion, to falsify progress so that the higher-ups could show off new features in our software for current and future potential investors, I would say on average one in three of our investors were convinced to invest, based on a feature that didn't actually work, just a lot of smoke and mirrors.
By the time I had left that company, I had enough evidence that would not only force the company to shutdown but end up with a majority of top-level management and a few government officials being arrested.
Really left a sour taste in my mouth for working with startups. After I finished being a consultant, I started working for an NGO local to me. Lower pay, but I only work 6 hours a day, and office attendance is optional (currently outright banned with corona virus).
20.) From dmsfx:
Well this is already public knowledge, and they forgot to have me sign an NDA anyway, but Savannah College of Art and Design's omudsman Sofia Bagnoli (the independent person who's supposed to represent students in cases of unfair treatment by the school) married one of the school's vice presidents to and is now Sofia Alletto. It's definitely a conflict of interest but she's still serving as "independent" ombudsman, and currently refusing to help students get any kind of refund now that all their classes are online and they don't have access to the expensive equipment their expensive tuition is supposed to be paying for.
21.) From Whyudownvotedme:
I used to work for a construction company in rural Texas, and man we did so much shady shit. Honestly my boss was like the Joe Exotic of construction. Always calling us the N word, cussing us out, threatening to fight us. None of our haul trucks could pass a state inspection because he was too cheap to fix them up. He never paid his taxes on any of the trackhoes. Anytime the tax man would show up, we would have to drive all the equipment deep into the woods to hide it. He always paid the OSHA inspector off because he knew our shops couldn’t pass inspection. We had mountains of scrap metal in the woods. Mountains of old oil buckets stacked in the woods. We had an old rail car in the back that was full of oil/hydraulic/transmission fluid. The cap was off so when it rained it overflowed and would just drain into the earth. I can’t count how many times we would get some equipment in and he would tell us to dump the fluid into one of the ponds. We always had guys up there trying to sell drugs and shit. Telling you my 3 years there was wild.
22.) From hedaleksa:
Popular dog kennel I worked for would have people leave their dogs for long periods of time. Dogs would stop eating. They wouldn’t tell the owners this.
People would leave beds and special toys and treats for their pet thinking they’d get these items, a little slice of home. These items would go in a trash bag and it would be set aside, treats would be thrown out. They used the excuse that it created too much laundry and that having personal items in a dogs kennel made them aggressive and protective over their stuff towards both humans and other dogs... ok but no, these are people’s pets they’re not f*cking wolves.
Short of making a Facebook post that no one would see I had no real way of telling the public and risking some bullshit lawsuit because I signed an NDA like a dummy, but I told everyone I knew with a dog to tell other dog owners not to send their dog there. Your dog can’t tell you what happens when you’re not around. Dogs would run into us with their tail wagging because they liked the yard workers but the conditions overall weren’t great. Dogs are so good and loyal. Small spaces and loose regulations on how many dogs you can have at once. It still boils my blood when I drive by. Hopefully things there are better now.
23.) From WrappedInRainbow:
I used to work at a zoo. I’ve got a few.
One day, electricity failed, so the polar bears and wolves were able to break out of their barbed wired compounds. Zoo keeper told me this while I was located in a kiosk that was situated right next to both the wolves and polar bears. Yikes. Luckily, they decided to not test the fences that day
A few babboons escaped. Zoo keepers had to shoot one and tranquillize the others. Supervisor told me “I would be fired immediately if I called the press”. Thanks.
A Swedish car brand called us to ask if we were willing to rent them a moose for a commercial. We told them no, we do not rent out our animals
Probably the biggest one: one of our zoo keepers saw that they had too much of a certain rat-like species. He was tasked to shoot them, but didn’t have the heart, so he released them into the wild, without our supervisors knowing. Few years later, we have reports of these animals actually causing destruction to our dikes. Oops!
Had to keep them a secret while working there, but have been working other jobs for a few years now.
24.) From americanalyss:
My mom had to sign a NDA about Ricky Martin being gay.
25.) From OdiiKii1313:
Well, Facebook moderators could disclose the trauma they've experienced moderating one of the biggest social media platforms in the world. They've witnessed horrific things that you would only ever think could happen in a war. One anecdote was of a woman who saw a man stabbed dozens of times, begging for his life. Usually, they don't last long, but the things they see on the job stick with them for years after they quit, and, unlike actual Facebook employees, they don't get paid very well or receive much at all in terms of compensation. Cognizant, the company that manages Facebook's moderation, offers them counselling while they work there, but the second they quit, they no longer have access to it and must either deal with the consequences on their own or get the money for a therapist.
This shit's f*cked up, and the icing on the cake is the NDA which means that they would take huge personal risk in warning anybody else about the job. New people signing up think they're getting a cushy job, albeit with relatively low pay, then get slammed in the face with things that no one should have to see, much less interact with as their job.